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    My new shih tzu (probably mix) Murray! help guessing his breed?

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    My new shih tzu (probably mix) Murray! help guessing his breed?

    Post by EverythingMurray on Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:29 pm

    I just got a shih tzu, or I am thinking shih tzu mix 4 weeks ago. His name is Murray. He is 19 weeks and almost 6kg (13lbs)!!! His mum looked just like a shih tzu (at least to me...I'm no expert) but I'm not sure what his dad was. The owner said he was a "pure white shih tzu" but she also said that the mum was pregnant when she adopted her from the pound, so who knows how much of her story is correct.

    He was having problems with strangers when I first got him, he growled at everyone, peed all the time when he was anxious or scared or excited, and hated leaving the apartment (I would have to pretty much drag him or coax him with treats to get him to walk anywhere). Now, we are walking well, sitting, staying, lying down (sometimes), the growling is 90% better (he is still weary of kids...very important to keep working on that), he loves to go to the park and play with other dogs and he is in puppy classes. Overall, I'm very pleased with the progress he has made.

    Any shih tzu experts (or non experts :) )willing to venture a guess as to what breed he may be mixed with and how big he might grow up to be? As I said, I think he's too big to be a shih tzu, his nose is a bit long, eyes are small, and his hair has a little bit of curl to it. When we run into other shih tzu's at the park, he is the same size as them, and he is only just over 4 months. Of course I have attached lots of pictures of my little cutie as well! I'm not trying to condone cross breeding or anything by having him, but his mum was at the shelter pregnant as I said, and he was sweet and needed help (so unsocialized) so I just wanted to give him a chance)

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    Re: My new shih tzu (probably mix) Murray! help guessing his breed?

    Post by ஐJudelஐ on Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:38 pm

    Hello there welcome to the forum, firstly let me just say he is one cutie and the pics are great. To me he looks more of a lhasa apso cross ut not sure what else with. Could be lab, or with his colouring of his nose and eyes a setter, cant remember there name off to take a look. Be right back



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    Re: My new shih tzu (probably mix) Murray! help guessing his breed?

    Post by angel01 on Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:39 pm

    welcome not sure what he is but he is really cute.
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    Re: My new shih tzu (probably mix) Murray! help guessing his breed?

    Post by Monika on Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:44 pm

    He soooo cute! And so big already! I am sure one of the others might be able to give you some clue to what he is. I am sure though whatever he turns out to be he is going to be a stunner!
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    Re: My new shih tzu (probably mix) Murray! help guessing his breed?

    Post by EverythingMurray on Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:45 pm

    I just hope he's not huge! I don't have a large apartment and like something small who can cuddle with me!
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    Re: My new shih tzu (probably mix) Murray! help guessing his breed?

    Post by ஐJudelஐ on Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:47 pm

    This breed came to mind..




    you might be able to tell more as he gets older. I can def see Lhasa though.

    His nose and eyes remind me of this breed..





    Be interesting to see what everyone else can see in him.

    Glad he is doing well now good boy




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    Re: My new shih tzu (probably mix) Murray! help guessing his breed?

    Post by Monika on Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:51 pm

    Italian Spinone??????
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    Re: My new shih tzu (probably mix) Murray! help guessing his breed?

    Post by daisydotes on Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:01 pm

    Well he sure is a handsome little guy

    Think I agree with Jules on the Lhasa connection and Monika seems to have hit the nail on the head with the Italian Spinone

    Hopefully as he grows you will be able to see more charachteristics (sp) coming through








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    Re: My new shih tzu (probably mix) Murray! help guessing his breed?

    Post by Fluff on Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:11 pm

    Hello from me too xxx

    I dont think Lhasa as even their noses arnt that long, he reminds me of a Tibetan terrier as i remember seeing Carols and hes very similar...



    He is just sooooooooooooo adorable cheers








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    Re: My new shih tzu (probably mix) Murray! help guessing his breed?

    Post by Claire on Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:14 pm

    I was going to say Tibetan Terrier, hes just like a grey and white one i know.




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    Re: My new shih tzu (probably mix) Murray! help guessing his breed?

    Post by Fluff on Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:16 pm

    Yeah so much like them eh cheers








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    Post by daisydotes on Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:21 pm

    I always forget the Tibetan terrier

    Looking at google images (see link) Fluff and Claire could be on the mark



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    Re: My new shih tzu (probably mix) Murray! help guessing his breed?

    Post by Monika on Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:23 pm

    yes! They do look just like him! Gorgeous!
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    Re: My new shih tzu (probably mix) Murray! help guessing his breed?

    Post by EverythingMurray on Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:50 pm

    Do you think he has any Shih Tzu in him? His mother was much smaller than the Tibetan terrier description, I'd guess 15 lbs? Haha I guess it doesn't matter...just curious. Also his coat is very silky and thin, if that helps :) when he is wet you can see lots of skin.
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    Post by Claire on Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:33 am

    I reckon he is crossed with a shiddie yeah Wink




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    Post by daisydotes on Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:50 am

    yes maybe shid TT cross








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    Post by Fluff on Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:56 am

    I think he will of just taken after dad more, did they home him to you as a full shiddie ???








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    Post by EverythingMurray on Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:12 pm

    Yeah told me he was purebred but no papers or anything. Have noticed his odd feet look just like the TT description. Think you're on to something :D hope he doesn't get too big, though. Looking at growth charts he ought to be just under 20lbs but who knows how accurate those are. Vet said not very.
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    Post by Fluff on Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:13 pm

    Well the TT's ive seen of Carols are adorable and not that big so i think you will be fine, shame how people can be so cruel and sell them as pure breds Sad

    I really do think he is adorable cheers








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    Post by Monika on Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:25 pm

    I agree a real cutie!
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    Post by achoo on Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:26 pm

    yes he is really lovely cheers
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    Post by angelswithin on Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:25 pm

    He is lovely. The when I first saw his pic I thought he had a terrier breed in him. He has got shih tzu in him tho you can really see that but yeah he really has tt features. He is really lovely and looks such a cheeky chap. Can't wait for more pics as he grows x
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    Post by EverythingMurray on Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:14 am

    Tibetan terrier isn't really a "terrier" though, is it? dunno
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    Post by Fluff on Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:47 am

    No they dont look or act like a terrier, not sure really Embarassed








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    Post by ஐJudelஐ on Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:14 am

    EverythingMurray wrote:Tibetan terrier isn't really a "terrier" though, is it? dunno

    Fluff wrote:No they dont look or act like a terrier, not sure really Embarassed


    me either...




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